Need help with modifying a pipe roller

[JD430Rick]

I broke down and bought a harbor freight pipe roller and I would like to modify it to look like the swag one. I want the quick-change slots not the pins. Yes, I am sure I could draw it up myself but I need this for a job next week and time is not on my side. I was going to just build my own roller but like I said I do not have the time. If anyone can help me with this it would be great. I would even do some file trading for the right file.

[ROKCRLER]

Have you seen this?
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=11535&p=64787&hili ... ght#p64787

[JD430Rick]

I did but I am looking for the one that is like the swag frame.

[tnbndr]

I did but I am looking for the one that is like the swag frame.

The last dxf posted by acourtjester in that link is the frame with the slots.

[Joe Jones]

I broke down and bought a harbor freight pipe roller

Oh? What is the HFT Skew # for that machine?

If it is one of these, it is not a pipe ROLLER. It is a pipe BENDER.

62669, 35336, 63356

Joe

[ROKCRLER]

joe, this one https://www.harborfreight.com/tubing-roller-99736.html

[Joe Jones]

joe, this one https://www.harborfreight.com/tubing-roller-99736.html

Oh, man! I forgot about that one! Yes ... They still sell those? I heard they were discontinued. They work well when you add their powered pipe threader as a motor drive. I really should think about adding one of those to my shop, just because. The one I had my eye on before priorities shifted, was the Baleigh Hydraulic Pipe Roller. Grizzly Tools also sells a nice one. But at some $25K, I could not justify the expense at the time.

Joe

[JD430Rick]

I broke down and bought a harbor freight pipe roller

Oh? What is the HFT Skew # for that machine?

If it is one of these, it is not a pipe ROLLER. It is a pipe BENDER.

62669, 35336, 63356

Joe

I have been around benders rollers and cutters for lots of years. I know the difference.. LOL!!
99736

[Rex]

Is this what you are looking for
REX

BENDER PIPE.dxf

[Joe Jones]

That seems like it would be simple enough to design.

Joe

[DieselFumes]

Rex, that is awesome! Nicely designed and very clean file. Thanks for sharing this!

[JD430Rick]

Rex,
That is what I am looking for. Thank you very much.

[Rex]

Thanks for the kind words, guys, but this is a file I have had for years. I don't know where I got it.
REX

[JD430Rick]

Those are the best kinds of files! The ones you forget about then find them when you need them!! LOL

[Joe Jones]

Honestly, it looks like it needs to be redesigned, so that the center vertical axis of the jack is directly over the pinch wheel and clear of the springs. The jack uses a centered piston pump, so it should really have FOUR springs, one at each corner, that allow free access to the piston arm without needing to deal with the interference of the spring. I don't know what those two small rectangular slots at the top of the tower sides are for. They seem to be irrelevant. I would mount it to a rolling stand and power it with a reversible 3HP motor with a gear reduction box.

Joe

[tinspark]

Most of the jacks that I currently own have the pump handle offset like this one, so if in a pinch, this may work without a major revamp

I decided to mount the return springs in a different arrangement than some other units I've seen, this is cleaner and works great!.jpg

[Rex]

The springs are offset so they are clear of jack.
The jack is over the center roller.
It's set up for an HF power pipe threader.
Two springs work just fine.
I used a 3/4 top plate where the jack ram lands
It works great for what it is and I would not change anything.
It has done everything I need it to do.
REX

[Joe Jones]

We can make it BETTER than it was! Better! Stronger! Faster! (Cue The Six Million Dollar Man Theme Song)

Joe

[J-SIG]

We can make it BETTER than it was! Better! Stronger! Faster! (Cue The Six Million Dollar Man Theme Song)

Joe

Good one Joe! Unfortunately a lot of the people on here now have no idea who your talking about !
Kind of like the "Bionic Woman"

Jeff

[tinspark]

Here is a cutaway of Harbor Freights light weight version.
It might get the wheels turning a bit.
Very generous to put this in their online pdf manual for guys like us..LOL!

Harbor freight layout.JPG

[tinspark]

I have been kicking around modifying this old dinosaur to something a little easier to manhandle. It is a late 19th century angle iron roller with 2 handles so that 2 men can crank it. I have only used it a few times and it is very slow going. But mainly it is way too heavy for my use. I am Kicking around using the dies and chucking the rest. Its about 300 lbs,, possibly borrowing some of this design from the ones here on this thread

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[Rex]

Now that is a real man's roller.
REX

[tnbndr]

I have been kicking around modifying this old dinosaur to something a little easier to manhandle. It is a late 19th century angle iron roller with 2 handles so that 2 men can crank it. I have only used it a few times and it is very slow going. But mainly it is way too heavy for my use. I am Kicking around using the dies and chucking the rest. Its about 300 lbs,, possibly borrowing some of this design from the ones here on this thread
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That could be easily modified. Remove one gear and handle completely. On the other side remove the handle, machine a chain gear to fit the dies, buy a gear reduction motor and mount below with a chain to drive the dies. I would wire in a foot control switch for forward and reverse as it makes it very easy to work alone that way. Two hands free to control the work.
I would modify the way to put pressure down on the top die to make it a single control instead of having to screw two handles down. Perhaps a bridge across with a bottle jack or bigger screw post.

[tinspark]

I have been kicking around modifying this old dinosaur to something a little easier to manhandle. It is a late 19th century angle iron roller with 2 handles so that 2 men can crank it. I have only used it a few times and it is very slow going. But mainly it is way too heavy for my use. I am Kicking around using the dies and chucking the rest. Its about 300 lbs,, possibly borrowing some of this design from the ones here on this thread
F13571E5-BE6E-4BC0-AF48-D354EE213F90.jpeg6DFA5C93-5D1A-407F-90FE-75B661814498.jpeg660DDB53-9651-405E-B242-A137281CE1DA.jpeg

That could be easily modified. Remove one gear and handle completely. On the other side remove the handle, machine a chain gear to fit the dies, buy a gear reduction motor and mount below with a chain to drive the dies. I would wire in a foot control switch for forward and reverse as it makes it very easy to work alone that way. Two hands free to control the work.
I would modify the way to put pressure down on the top die to make it a single control instead of having to screw two handles down. Perhaps a bridge across with a bottle jack or bigger screw post.

Thats a great idea. I purchased an old , but in perfect condition , 9” logan lathe from an old buddy who rebuilds them, and have been itching to mess with the thing. I might get to play around with my lathe that thing when I get into rebuilding it.
Any good sites to price a motor and foot pedal?

[tnbndr]

I have been kicking arouwith the thing. I might get to play around with my lathe that thing when I get into rebuilding it.
Any good sites to price a motor and foot pedal?

I sourced the motor for my sheet roller off of ebay years ago. Just need to keep watching. I bought a nice forward reverse foot pedal from MetalPro as they are local and I like the one on my MetalPro IronWorker.
Get as slow a gear reduction motor as you can and you can also play around with pulley sizes for the correct speed.

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